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DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.16 16:01:00 - [1] it sucks to lose every fight through **ing ecm its comming from 100 km out side of the battle and makes my 2 year close to 50 mil sp char 100% senseless every time it is able in this ing game(where i pay time and money for) to make an fight in low sec without being perma jammed by an **ing alt char or so ?????
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.16 17:40:00 - [2] there is no way to counter ecm effectivly with except ecm self
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.16 17:41:00 - [3] Originally by: Straight Chillen Originally by: KingBobs Dawn question:wich module can -disable attack-orders for drones WRONG: Drones that have been assigned a target will keep attack regardless of ECM. And as an added bonus, if your drones are idle, and u have them set to aggress, they will attack anyone who jamms you. There are plenty of counters to ECM ships. Get ANY ship within 40kms and they will trying to run away. WRONG: i cant give attack orders while being jammed
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.16 17:48:00 - [4] Edited by: DMF KingBob on 16/12/2008 17:49:50 Originally by: maralt Edited by: maralt on 16/12/2008 17:42:59 Originally by: DMF KingBob Originally by: Straight Chillen Originally by: KingBobs Dawn question:wich module can -disable attack-orders for drones WRONG: Drones that have been assigned a target will keep attack regardless of ECM. And as an added bonus, if your drones are idle, and u have them set to aggress, they will attack anyone who jamms you. There are plenty of counters to ECM ships. Get ANY ship within 40kms and they will trying to run away. WRONG: i cant give attack orders while being jammed Then they do not disable attack orders they just stop you from making new ones during the jam cycle. and when the cycle ends/begins the next..... edit Then they do not disable attack orders they just stop you from making new ones during the jam cycle. LOL u talk bull****
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.16 21:52:00 - [5] Originally by: 554812 Edited by: 554812 on 16/12/2008 20:56:56 ECM really needs a bit of work. (especially the falcon) second time i've died 100% jammed in like 2 weeks, cant even fight back. same to me but in a couple of hours and mostly at friday night too
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.17 10:58:00 - [6] Originally by: Dasfry Originally by: DMF KingBob there is no way to counter ecm effectivly with except ecm self LoL ECCM = electronic COUNTER counter messures a counter to a counter, = lots of counting hm that means it should give the ability that the jammer jamm his self x) and falcons are hard to figure out and to beat becouse the can warp cloaked with out an drawback!!!
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.17 11:09:00 - [7] Originally by: DMF KingBob Originally by: Dasfry Originally by: DMF KingBob there is no way to counter ecm effectivly with except ecm self LoL ECCM = electronic COUNTER counter messures a counter to a counter, = lots of counting hm that means it should give the ability that the jammer jamm his self x) and falcons are hard to figure out and to beat becouse the can warp cloaked with out an drawback!!! the eccm should give the pilot an effective chance to reflect the ecm maybe supported by an effectiv skill like eccm-interfacing wich gives 20% to the chance of reflection becouse the current state of eccm is very sennsless i have seen ships with over 200 sensor strengh that getting perma-jammed(cycle on cycle) by an falcon
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.17 15:54:00 - [8] Originally by: shamai Originally by: KingBobs Dawn question:wich module can -disrupt all your turrets to 100% -defend all your missiles -disrupt your remote repair -makes free of warp scrambles and disruptors -makes free of stasis webb -disable attack-orders for drones -disable the EW from your target -more then one can be used at one target without an drawback -all this in an save range of 100km and more out side from the battle ? Right the ECM-****-off module Question which module? -is not 100% effective -is fitted to paperthin ships -can be countered with a small amount of intelligence maybe an weapon disruptor ?
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.19 12:10:00 - [9] Originally by: Cassius Longinus Falcon is amazingly effective if you are fighting in your own bookmarked space. Still, it's all Caldari have for effective small-gang PVP just now. Regardless of whether the Falcons jamming strength bonus gets reduced, I would like to see other races recons slightly boosted. sennsless becouse the other races have no player-jammers
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.20 12:21:00 - [10] last night the same chase the main with an hyperion and the alt with an falcon at 100km i fitted an eccm and heated it but it was sennsless the hyperion escaped the ecm of the falcon turned all my offensive modules instandly it to idle my turrets stopped with firing (that better then alls neutralizer and turret disruptor can do!!!!) and my warp disruptor and webber turned off question:for what does the other ew exist when an ecm can do it all at once at the same time with more range then a neut on an curse/pilgrim or an webber from an huginn or rapier or an warp disruptor(t2) from an arazu??? its simple time to accept the fact that ecm with 20sec/cycle is overpowered
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.21 12:11:00 - [11] Originally by: TZeer Originally by: DMF KingBob last night the same chase the main with an hyperion and the alt with an falcon at 100km i fitted an eccm and heated it but it was sennsless the hyperion escaped the ecm of the falcon turned all my offensive modules instandly it to idle my turrets stopped with firing (that better then alls neutralizer and turret disruptor can do!!!!) and my warp disruptor and webber turned off question:for what does the other ew exist when an ecm can do it all at once at the same time with more range then a neut on an curse/pilgrim or an webber from an huginn or rapier or an warp disruptor(t2) from an arazu??? its simple time to accept the fact that ecm with 20sec/cycle is overpowered Let me get this straight. You made the Hyperion run, but that was only possible after the Falcon jammed you. So what actually happend? You have had to do some sort of damage to the hyperion to make it run when the falcon jammed you. Which means the falcon failed jamming you multiple times. And if you expect one single ECCM to overcome jamming 100%, then I would like to get a hardener that will reduce all incomming damage by 100%. Btw, you are a terrible troll. i got an blackbird in my fleet on the other side of the battle so the hype was jammed too and yes the jamm of the falcon failed some times(never seen this before,maybe something wrong with the skills or so) the battle was a complete fail through ecm becouse ecm pwns all the other ew like warp jammers where is the sense of different tactics when only one is the best?
DMF KingBob	Posted - 2008.12.21 12:42:00 - [12] Originally by: Drogher Forerunner Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Originally by: Drogher Forerunner But if there is not ECM around, it becomes a wasted slot. If there is no explosive dmg around, explosive hardener becomes a wasted slot. True. Good point. I wonder if ECM should have a much shorter optimal range and a bigger falloff. So if they want to jam as well as they do now they have to take more of a risk in being closer. Originally by: TZeer 2: Falcon's ECM power got boosted to to same as the rooks, to follow the design from the other races recons. Sort these 2 out first before you all go ragequit, slit wrist whatever... True this needs to be sorted out. Maybe reduce the jamming range of the falcon by alot. the range is always to much or what whould say the players to 100km webbs disruptors or neutralizers?? an dont forget Neutralizer needs cap booster to work effective after some time

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